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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:21 am    Post subject: chain wear Reply with quote

Please direct me to the link on chain wear. I thought Bob M. had posted about how to measure it, but after searching, can't find the right article or message about it. Have a factory chain on with 11000miles on it, O rings are all there yet, sprockets ok, yet I know there is some play, but how much? Just curious. I thought I might get fancy and measure, instead of just going, " yep, about time to change". Will soon replace all chain/sprockets, would just rather wait till spring break, no heated garage to work in.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I made my chain comments on the 2011 Stampede thread.

11,000 is a long time for a DS chain, but to check it just pull out on it in the middle of the rear sprocket. If you can pull it out enough to see any daylight between the chain and sprocket groove it's worn. A chain can be worn and not completely shot, but when it finally goes it goes fast! It can become dangerous in just a very few miles. If it's "clicking" or "kinking" it's 100% gone.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:50 pm    Post subject: Chain wear Reply with quote

Thank you, I looked in the wrong places. I never had an aftermarket chain or sprocket last this long on the '87klr. This one I just keep lubing up, and the spockets show very little wear, you really have to look close, but it does clink or kink when backing up. I started thinking about getting OEM chain if it last that much longer. Usually at 5000 miles the chain/sprockets are in need of replacement, and I don't see that same type of wear. I will check for the pictured wear that you described, that's what had me thinking. With $$$ the way it is, I know I'm running things longer. Right now, normally I'd done changed out the front tire, but there is 1/8" of knob left it the center. Just don't want to try to wear things to far.
Thank you for your help.
Ride safe this spring!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My bud had over 15k on his 08. Started kinking and catching bad on him in CO. He rode it back and just kept lubing it every 80 miles or so. Laughing

Just grab the chain at 3 o'clock like the pic. Any more slop than that and I'd replace with 11k. Check rkymtnatv, they have good prices on their tusk brand sprockets and chain. They should have a package deal.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read about the Rocky Mountain MC/ATV "house brand" Xring chain the other day. Much cheaper than an RK or DID, but lots of good reviews. I bought their house brand handlebars which were much cheaper than anything else, and they seem great. I'll see if I can find a link for the chain for you.

Clicking when you back up............... sssssssssssssssshhhhh...... Shocked

http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/48/77/226/959/1022/9634/Primary-Drive-Steel-Kit-%2526-X-Ring-Chain

Not bad for the whole set up. $83
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, just reread your 1st post. If you don't have a warm place to work, you're mostly commuting and you keep it lubed, you should be fine until Spring. The problem is longer rides and heat.
Replace all 3 when you do it though.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 6:29 am    Post subject: chain wear Reply with quote

When I got the 07 in '10, I soon put a new 14t on the front, the 16t on that came with it was fun on the highway, but I prefer the 14t, because I try to stay off the paved roads. Trying to hold the 14t geared KLR to 55mph on backroads is bad enough, with the 16t on the front Just Forget It! You're movin' right on down the road! The 14t has about 7500miles on it, Otherwise I always change all 3 out. When I go to work I use the highway, but rarely on the way the way home. Went to go to work Friday morning, and had a flat on the rear. Had to take the 90' toyota. Gotta' love those pieces of wire.
Gives me something to do this morning I guess. I'll scrub clean the chain, and closely inspect it, when patching the rear flat. Will order from RM if the kit has a 14t in it, I couldn't find a sprocket count when I checked quickly a bit ago. When go back and look longer. RM seem cheaper than DK, if the right sprockets are there. Thanks for the info and help guys. Spring is closer day by day!
Ride safe!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:10 pm    Post subject: Chains............. Reply with quote

Hey Gordon, Thanks for your post. It brings up an important point of maintainance for all of us. I would like to relate a recent experience that may prove to be helpful. At last years Stampede I led a group on a Friday ride that was (as always) alot of fun and at a pretty spirited pace. When I got up on Saturday morning I went through my usual check list and lube ritual and found that my master link was missing the keeper and top plate. Particularly interesting considering that my last loop was 60 mph down 99 highway. Would recommend that unless one is running a constant chain that the master link be inspected regularly and that a spare link should be carried in case of failure. Hope the wheat harvest comes in early and that we will see you at the Stampede..............
Also, It seems pretty hard to find a front sprocket better than the stock 15t. Would recommend contacting "Sprocket Specialists". They will cut you a rear sprocket to what ever specs you desire and at a pretty reasonable price. Good materials and good workmanship.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:52 pm    Post subject: Re: chain wear Reply with quote

Gordon wrote:
I couldn't find a sprocket count when I checked quickly a bit ago. When go back and look longer. RM seem cheaper than DK, if the right sprockets are there. Thanks for the info and help guys. Spring is closer day by day!
Ride safe!


You may need to call them and ask if they can substitute counter sprockets. You can piece it together and buy the 14 tooth you want, but it comes out to a little more that way. Orders of $100 ship Free.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:14 pm    Post subject: Chain Reply with quote

Ordering from RM, the same items priced from DK, RM comes in $60 cheaper even with separate sprocket orders. Order of chain, sprockets, Kenda 270's front and rear, RM cheaper. Added in chain lube, and 4 oil filters for additional items and still cheaper than from DK. Shipping is free from both companies, once over a $100.
On another note, I always carry a chain press, and spare links in my tool pipe on the klr. Haven't had to use it on the road yet, but it sure makes putting a chain together easier.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found this gadget today. Actually this company has several nice motorcycle tools that I hadn't seen before. I like the look of their axle nut wrench tire spoon combo, made from stainless.




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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's some info on Maintenance from Regina Chains, that's what came on my 610 and I have had good luck with them. They give you measurements to determine wear if you are interested.
http://www.reginachain.it/eng/use_and_maintenance/how_to04.shtml#02

Here's the Use and Maintenance main page....maybe more than you want to know Wink
http://www.reginachain.it/eng/use_and_maintenance/index.shtml
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